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01-07-2012, 07:47 PM
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Lines in frieze seams
Since that showhome (under McBride's New Project), we have worked with that frieze product two more times. The pile is composed of a random two-tone colour. The second install was a darker colour, and we found that when we cut the seams and put them together, dark and light lines would appear where the fibre colours were twinned at the seams. In our last install, we had to nap out some of the twinned colours in order to make the seams disappear. Shifting the fills did not make those lines disappear, but just appear somewhere else in the seam.
We were asked to do another install of this product (even though we had grumbled about it) and this time, we did something a little different; we cut the seams just a little off-square (slightly diagonal), and those lines did not appear at all.
The product is Mohawk's Quiet Escape.
Hopefully, this will save some other installer out there a little grief.
D&D
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01-07-2012, 08:05 PM
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Have you tried a serpentine straight edge? We used one for multi-colored sculpture back in the 80's. It breaks up the color lines and hides the seams.
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01-07-2012, 11:14 PM
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Thats a good idea McBrides.
Rusty, I don't think you can even buy a serpentine straight edge here any more.
Kinda makes you wonder if these carpet people even try and makes seams in this stuff they dream up.
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01-07-2012, 11:20 PM
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[QUOTE=Ernesto;5683
Rusty, I don't think you can even buy a serpentine straight edge here any more.
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I still have a nice one.
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01-07-2012, 11:25 PM
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I met a guy once who free handed (double cut) his serpintene edges. He got fired immediately.
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01-08-2012, 02:02 AM
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I noticed that problem with friezes about 5 years ago. If you run a row, you have to make sure the two sides are not the same color. they rotate every other row with the two colors.If you straightedge your seams, then you need to do it slightly off kilter.
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01-08-2012, 06:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polestretch
I noticed that problem with friezes about 5 years ago. If you run a row, you have to make sure the two sides are not the same color. they rotate every other row with the two colors.If you straightedge your seams, then you need to do it slightly off kilter.
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We didn't start seeing friezes until about 2 1/2 years ago, which is the usual lag time for American product making it into Canada, and most of the friezes we have worked with have been here in the Peg in the past year. This product, so far, has been the only pisser. On the last install, we were shaving rows off to try to eliminate the lines.
We only row cut berbers and patterned goods, but it is the patterned goods we usually end up arguing over. I am far better than Dave at finding and making the pattern match.
Rusty, we haven't seen a serpentine straightedge in well over 10 years. That was the suggestion made by our insurance estimator, but even if we had access to one, we have never used a wide iron and wide tape would probably be a special order.
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01-08-2012, 07:03 PM
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The serpentine I have, you only need a regular iron. Don't know if it would work on that carpet or not anyway and you have found a solution. But for anyone interested, Crain still makes a combination serpentine straight edge.
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01-08-2012, 07:21 PM
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And I thought straight edging was forbodden.
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01-08-2012, 07:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernesto
And I thought straight edging was forbodden. 
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Only for those belonging to certain organizations. The rest of us can do whatever makes the seam look best.
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