Discussing politics and religion

Flooring Forum - DIY & Professional

Help Support Flooring Forum - DIY & Professional:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
That’s why it’s so important to not retaliate. As a matter of fact, don’t even acknowledge those labels. When someone debates none-sense, they give credence to it. Stand up for what you believe by sharing your philosophy rather than addressing the lie. When we take a defensive posture against an allegation that is frivolous, we shine a light on the allegation. Retaliate by taking the high road of none-retaliation 😜 Stay true to your message and keep applying the political bonding agent of respect. At this point, both sides continue to retaliate disrespectfully and we the people are stuck in the middle
Not knowing where to go and what to believe. STOP THE INSANITY by refusing to engage, then maybe they will share their plans rather than their criticism.
I absolutely understand your message and everything behind it.
Two cops are sitting in their cars taking a lunch break.
Some thug walks up from behind and puts a bullet in one cops ear, empties the gun at the cop in the passenger side.
Unprevoked murder and attempted murder. Are you planning to ask thugs to be nice?
There was something stupid called the cinnimon challenge, ice challenge and others. There was something of "challenge" where people walked or snuck up on people and sucker punched them, sometimes and not uncommonly, elderly people...... Just walking down the sidewalk and some jerk walks up and puts their heavy fist into the side of their head.
.....for fun? Drive by shootings of homeless. People using aintball guns. ....for fun?
In Venezuela, it's not uncommon to watch surveylance videos where a pair of guys drive up on a motorcycle, to people walking on the sidewalk, quickly putting a bullet in someone's ear then steals a watch and a cel phone.
Being nice, being productive, constructive and pillars in the community typically comes from good parenting. . I think you are an excellent example of that...... someone taught you good from bad, and right from wrong. Same with me. That's why we can banter and still be civil.
The problem in that thinking is it will never work when power money and and control is involved, but that is and always will be.
How do you calm down 77 million Trump voters after this raid in his wife's pantie closet? They poured napalm on the fire and made it 10x worse firing up Trump voters and the independents.
How will ignoring that political invasion lessen the attacks by the Democrats.
Bein nice to relatives, friends and customers.... checkers at the grocery store or just everywhere is what makes us spread the good vibes. We can do that in our communities. Most people to some degree behave that way, so im our respective bubbles, things are just fine. I literally have no beef with anyone I've ever met, and hold no grudges against anyone I've ever met.
We are not the problem.
By pointing out the wrongs performed by people of power and heads of state, we can influence people to make better choices in the future when voting.
........if we stay silent, non combative and submissive, it will tell the people in power that we like them and their practices and that we like them controlling our every move. It will hide truths from ignorant voters most of whom rely on the lamestream media.
That isn't going to happen in the next 100,000 years. Call it human nature, call it common sense or whatever.
The escalation of anger in the past 6 years is unprecidented. It started with name calling and prolific labeling of conservatives from the time Hillary called us deplorables.
She wasn't bashing just Trump, but bashing and labeling everyone that ended up voting for him. We're now skinheads, white supremacists, bigots, homophobes....... Whatever nasty slur they want to use to make themselves feel important.
Then came the fake dossier. The media jumped on it like flies on a cow pie. The Democrats jumped on it and tried to impeach him on Russian collusion. It was later verified 100% false.
Did Twitter, Instagram, Google, youtube, or YouTube declare "Disinformation" and start banning people over collusion or the dossier???
...no, that was perfectly fine because the press all hated Trump.
When Trump spoke or voiced HIS opinion.
....well thats when the magical term DISINFORMATION came into being.
It's only purpose was to make Trump and his followers to be invisible or less shut up.
Hunter Biden's laptop was obviously legit from day one, but the geniuses at the FBI, who had the laptop's information for a long time before the public had heard of it ......... just sat on it and the had the nerve to call it Russian disinformation. 😤
They, of all people knew it was real yet called it fake.
Your peace idea needs to be directed at the heads of the Democrat Gestapo. If you can convince them to stop the relentless attack, appoligize and shake hands, then civility is possible
If that does not happen, this is all our war between the parties.
The Democrats have gone insane with their vicious attacks. Only when they stop can civility have a chance.
Me and you, our customers family and friends...... we're all good.
IT'S THEM I TELL YOU, IT'S THEM !!! 😁😁😁
 
Last edited:
I absolutely understand your message and everything behind it.
Two cops are sitting in their cars taking a lunch break.
Some thug walks up from behind and puts a bullet in one cops ear, empties the gun at the cop in the passenger side.
Unprevoked murder and attempted murder. Are you planning to ask thugs to be nice?
There was something stupid called the cinnimon challenge, ice challenge and others. There was something of "challenge" where people walked or snuck up on people and sucker punched them, sometimes and not uncommonly, elderly people...... Just walking down the sidewalk and some jerk walks up and puts their heavy fist into the side of their head.
.....for fun? Drive by shootings of homeless. People using aintball guns. ....for fun?
In Venezuela, it's not uncommon to watch surveylance videos where a pair of guys drive up on a motorcycle, to people walking on the sidewalk, quickly putting a bullet in someone's ear then steals a watch and a cel phone.
Being nice, being productive, constructive and pillars in the community typically comes from good parenting. . I think you are an excellent example of that...... someone taught you good from bad, and right from wrong. Same with me. That's why we can banter and still be civil.
The problem in that thinking is it will never work when power money and and control is involved, but that is and always will be.
How do you calm down 77 million Trump voters after this raid in his wife's pantie closet? They poured napalm on the fire and made it 10x worse firing up Trump voters and the independents.
How will ignoring that political invasion lessen the attacks by the Democrats.
Bein nice to relatives, friends and customers.... checkers at the grocery store or just everywhere is what makes us spread the good vibes. We can do that in our communities. Most people to some degree behave that way, so im our respective bubbles, things are just fine. I literally have no beef with anyone I've ever met, and hold no grudges against anyone I've ever met.
We are not the problem.
By pointing out the wrongs performed by people of power and heads of state, we can influence people to make better choices in the future when voting.
........if we stay silent, non combative and submissive, it will tell the people in power that we like them and their practices and that we like them controlling our every move. It will hide truths from ignorant voters most of whom rely on the lamestream media.
That isn't going to happen in the next 100,000 years. Call it human nature, call it common sense or whatever.
The escalation of anger in the past 6 years is unprecidented. It started with name calling and prolific labeling of conservatives from the time Hillary called us deplorables.
She wasn't bashing just Trump, but bashing and labeling everyone that ended up voting for him. We're now skinheads, white supremacists, bigots, homophobes....... Whatever nasty slur they want to use to make themselves feel important.
Then came the fake dossier. The media jumped on it like flies on a cow pie. The Democrats jumped on it and tried to impeach him on Russian collusion. It was later verified 100% false.
Did Twitter, Instagram, Google, youtube, or YouTube declare "Disinformation" and start banning people over collusion or the dossier???
...no, that was perfectly fine because the press all hated Trump.
When Trump spoke or voiced HIS opinion.
....well thats when the magical term DISINFORMATION came into being.
It's only purpose was to make Trump and his followers to be invisible or less shut up.
Hunter Biden's laptop was obviously legit from day one, but the geniuses at the FBI, who had the laptop's information for a long time before the public had heard of it ......... just sat on it and the had the nerve to call it Russian disinformation. 😤
They, of all people knew it was real yet called it fake.
Your peace idea needs to be directed at the heads of the Democrat Gestapo. If you can convince them to stop the relentless attack, appoligize and shake hands, then civility is possible
If that does not happen, this is all our war between the parties.
The Democrats have gone insane with their vicious attacks. Only when they stop can civility have a chance.
Me and you, our customers family and friends...... we're all good.
IT'S THEM I TELL YOU, IT'S THEM !!! 😁😁😁
Your cop story comes close to reality. In New York, thug walks up behind a cop and shoots him in the head, cop lives, shooter is caught. This was on a Friday. On Monday, shooter walks out of jail on his signature. They say it would be racist to hold him because he can't afford bond.
 
So if a tax cheat makes less than 400K we should just let it go?

Makes zero sense.
What about someone on a fixed income who sells a few handmade crafts on weekends so they can eat? I know people like that. Or the high school kid who mows a few lawns?
Suppose you have owned, say a riding lawn mower for 10 years and buy a new one. You would have to pay income taxes on what you get out of the old one. This is the crap they are pushing. Any transaction into or out of your bank account over $600 and the info must be sent to the IRS, even if you are just paying your rent. It will cost the banks a lot of money to comply and that cost is passed on to you. And it will cost a lot of tax money for every one of these transactions to be looked at by the IRS.
What if this turns out like it did when Florida made everyone on food stamps be tested for drugs? Turned out to be less than 2% were on drugs. Cost the taxpayers around $1 million to save $30,000. Most of these things end up being a big mistake.
 
What about someone on a fixed income who sells a few handmade crafts on weekends so they can eat? I know people like that. Or the high school kid who mows a few lawns?
Suppose you have owned, say a riding lawn mower for 10 years and buy a new one. You would have to pay income taxes on what you get out of the old one. This is the crap they are pushing. Any transaction into or out of your bank account over $600 and the info must be sent to the IRS, even if you are just paying your rent. It will cost the banks a lot of money to comply and that cost is passed on to you. And it will cost a lot of tax money for every one of these transactions to be looked at by the IRS.
What if this turns out like it did when Florida made everyone on food stamps be tested for drugs? Turned out to be less than 2% were on drugs. Cost the taxpayers around $1 million to save $30,000. Most of these things end up being a big mistake.

Sounds like a great way to learn how to hide your income. What floor guy/ gal doesn’t already know how to do that. Discount for paying in cash? Barter for goods and services? How about an out of the country bank account? Put your money in bitcoin? Who knows. People think that this will be the end of the world but we adapt to our environment.
 
Sounds like a great way to learn how to hide your income. What floor guy/ gal doesn’t already know how to do that. Discount for paying in cash? Barter for goods and services? How about an out of the country bank account? Put your money in bitcoin? Who knows. People think that this will be the end of the world but we adapt to our environment.
I know, but it is just another hassle.
 
What about someone on a fixed income who sells a few handmade crafts on weekends so they can eat? I know people like that. Or the high school kid who mows a few lawns?
Suppose you have owned, say a riding lawn mower for 10 years and buy a new one. You would have to pay income taxes on what you get out of the old one. This is the crap they are pushing. Any transaction into or out of your bank account over $600 and the info must be sent to the IRS, even if you are just paying your rent. It will cost the banks a lot of money to comply and that cost is passed on to you. And it will cost a lot of tax money for every one of these transactions to be looked at by the IRS.
What if this turns out like it did when Florida made everyone on food stamps be tested for drugs? Turned out to be less than 2% were on drugs. Cost the taxpayers around $1 million to save $30,000. Most of these things end up being a big mistake.
***********************
Theoretically your examples are tax cheats if they do not comply with our tax code. You know this as well as I do and we all look the other way----------up to a point. It's only where this point is that we will all disagree. They're not changing those kinds of tax laws. They're basically doubling the IRS manpower to enforce collections.

Usually Randy, this argument you're making is done using the little girl selling lemonade on the sidewalk in front of her house. YES, under our tax laws-------federal, state, county and city codes her little business comes into their jurisdiction and is therefore subject to all kinds of mandates from those agencies.

I don't see any difference with putting more IRS agents on the job and focusing them where we KNOW the evasion is going on from putting police on the street to "stop and frisk" where they know crimes are being committed.

We can certainly discuss fairness of tax laws distinguished from efficiencies of enforcement. I'm really surprised about the mention of "armed and willing to use deadly force" in the job profile. Seems like something almost certainly included as a provocation. It's nothing new that enforcement might require armed agents----ATF/Sherrif/Police/IRS/Marshals/Troopers-------don't they all carry weapons?
 
Sounds like a great way to learn how to hide your income. What floor guy/ gal doesn’t already know how to do that. Discount for paying in cash? Barter for goods and services? How about an out of the country bank account? Put your money in bitcoin? Who knows. People think that this will be the end of the world but we adapt to our environment.
Right, tax evasion is pervasive in small business. This flagging of $600 transactions will force more CASH deals as opposed to the convenience of writing a check.

I'm fairly certain the IRS has researched specifically where to focus the new agents towards maximizing their collections and it will absolutely come at those who cheat and I have no doubt plenty of folk declaring less than $400K annually are cheating. Thing is, there's diminishing returns in chasing after one man landscaping operations or little old ladies making crafts at the kitchen table. $600 is just then number they drew upon to start investigations.

So the reason for the hysterical, partisan objections to these policies is probably not because they're going to go after the little girl selling lemonade. It's actually because there are some HUGE tax evasion schemes going on in multiple industries today that can be easily identified and busted if our efforts focused. You can wager your left testicle there's going to be an impact on those industries--------LABOR COSTS GO UP. Those industries have their Public Relation Agents crafting up these extremist interpretations of the improved enforcement means.
 
Some thug walks up from behind and puts a bullet in one cops ear, empties the gun at the cop in the passenger side.
Unprevoked murder and attempted murder. Are you planning to ask thugs to be nice?
what a tragedy,
Yes ! Absolutely, every day, and every night up until termination day, whether it be next week or 100 years from now. Message’s of why they needed to be a responsible citizens will be given so that maybe when their spirit is reincarnated they have a better chance of being a better Stuart and a better citizen. Even if reincarnation is a fantasy, the act alone of delivering these messages will have an impact on all of us. Just think 🤔 the same Humanities class the criminal gets, we get, whether at home or school. Now we have millions and millions of good citizens empowered with not only personal responsibility, but community responsibility, we are only as safe as our weakest link. See something say something, it may prevent the next one.

Maybe the new irs agents need to be sales reps promoting both fiscal and civil responsibility.

sucker punched them, sometimes and not uncommonly, elderly people...... Just walking down the sidewalk and some jerk walks up and puts their heavy fist into the side of their head

I took a crystal light and kind bar break the other day with Judy the 81 year old tenant across the hall and she shared a story about a young impatient driver giving her the finger. We humans can be crazy and cruel like you shared, all the more reason promoting Humanity’s classes could help. Will everyone comply ? Never 👎 that’s why we may need to be creative like Ski slopes do. I shared with Judy how me and my 22 year old buddy where racing down a crowded slope ( against the rules ) got caught and where given a 1 hour Time Out 😜 behind a safety video.

That's why we can banter and still be civil.
The problem in that thinking is it will never work when power money and and control is involved, but that is and always will be.
When we humans, me included , use the word ‘ Never ‘ we limit our personal and societal capacity to grow.

How do you calm down 77 million Trump voters after this raid in his wife's pantie closet? They poured napalm on the fire and made it 10x worse firing up Trump voters and the independents.
How will ignoring that political invasion lessen the attacks by the Democrats.

First and foremost:
The ‘ Trump / Republican ‘ campaign like the ‘ Biden / Democrats ‘ both have a civic duty to share a vision for the future with us. Bashing, Allegations , Personal Attacks are NOT NECESSARY ! And Dangerous ! …….they decided to Race down the crowded ski slopes of America jeopardizing our safety. They both need a Time Out from a newly created Civics and Humanities Department…….Fear campaigning needs to stop. Forget about all the other causes, if we don’t get this one under some semblance, the fear and rebellion will continue. How we debate Is how we create !

Ok High, now let’s address a mitigation strategy fit for Society and her health. A plan that address’s all the past and present Fear Campaigns for what they are ‘ TRASH ‘ It’s a choice, clean up or make more trash ? We really have no in-between and what’s the opposite of fear ? Hope ! ……Hope campaigns will flush down the poop 💩

SAFE CLASS TEACHING : when we talk about the fear of what we don’t want we shine a light on the Trash. When we talk about the Hope or Love of what we DO ! Want, we shine a light on Cleaning up ! …… insert your best imaginative shop vac picture, sucking up all the Fear Making Constituents, Dems, Repub., and in between. 🤣

It’s toooo late for them to save face now !

As for the so called panty rad, it is as it is. Our governmental machinery is revving up, and can’t be stopped, but what we the people can do is Stop talking about it, stop listening with such intensity, because they brought this onto themselves. They opened Pandora’s box and brought closed door politics into our living rooms. Let’s give them some directing, and then some space to improve. When we give an adversaries direction with out judge mental language we give them space to reconsider and to reconcile. The Trust we give to ourselves each and every day is the same trust we extend to our adversaries, giving them the same hope we are looking for……In other words, Mentor till the cows come home, then verify that they did come home. If not, direct them again, and again, and again, an endless message of hope, because ! They already know we have the power to crush them, and we know they have the power or will to retaliate. A loose loose situation. I hope that makes sense. So ! Let’s promote the Win Win plan by directing our leaders to lead from a place of Hope, otherwise we stay in fight or flight instinctual mode.

Thanks high for the edit button location 👍
 
Last edited:
what a tragedy,
Yes ! Absolutely, every day, and every night up until termination day, whether it be next week or 100 years from now. Message’s of why they needed to be a responsible citizens will be given so that maybe when their spirit is reincarnated they have a better chance of being a better Stuart and a better citizen. Even if reincarnation is a fantasy, the act alone of delivering these messages will have an impact on all of us. Just think 🤔 the same Humanities class the criminal gets, we get, whether at home or school. Now we have millions and millions of good citizens empowered with not only personal responsibility, but community responsibility, we are only as safe as our weakest link. See something say something, it may prevent the next one.

Maybe the new irs agents need to be sales reps promoting both fiscal and civil responsibility.



I took a crystal light and kind bar break the other day with Judy the 81 year old tenant across the hall and she shared a story about a young impatient driver giving her the finger. We humans can be crazy and cruel like you shared, all the more reason promoting Humanity’s classes could help. Will everyone comply ? Never 👎 that’s why we may need to be creative like Ski slopes do. I shared with Judy how me and my 22 year old buddy where racing down a crowded slope ( against the rules ) got caught and where given a 1 hour Time Out 😜 behind a safety video.


When we humans, me included , use the word ‘ Never ‘ we limit our personal and societal capacity to grow.



First and foremost:
The ‘ Trump / Republican ‘ campaign like the ‘ Biden / Democrats ‘ both have a civic duty to share a vision for the future with us. Bashing, Allegations , Personal Attacks are NOT NECESSARY ! And Dangerous ! …….they decided to Race down the crowded ski slopes of America jeopardizing our safety. They both need a Time Out from a newly created Civics and Humanities Department…….Fear campaigning needs to stop. Forget about all the other causes, if we don’t get this one under some semblance, the fear and rebellion will continue. How we debate Is how we create !

Ok High, now let’s address a mitigation strategy fit for Society and her health. A plan that address’s all the past and present Fear Campaigns for what they are ‘ TRASH ‘ It’s a choice, clean up or make more trash ? We really have no in-between and what’s the opposite of fear ? Hope ! ……Hope campaigns will flush down the poop 💩

SAFE CLASS TEACHING : when we talk about the fear of what we don’t want we shine a light on the Trash. When we talk about the Hope or Love of what we DO ! Want, we shine a light on Cleaning up ! …… insert your best imaginative shop vac picture, sucking up all the Fear Making Constituents, Dems, Repub., and in between. 🤣

It’s toooo late for them to save face now !

As for the so called panty rad, it is as it is. Our governmental machinery is revving up, and can’t be stopped, but what we the people can do is Stop talking about it, stop listening with such intensity, because they brought this onto themselves. They opened Pandora’s box and brought closed door politics into our living rooms. Let’s give them some directing, and then some space to improve. When we give an adversaries direction with out judge mental language we give them space to reconsider and to reconcile. The Trust we give ourselves each and every day to perpetuate the justice or injustice on this and many other matters
How close was I? 😉
.... Referring to your last sentence.
Can I be your editor from now on? 😁😁😁😁
At the lower left it says report and then there's three dots.
Click on the three dots to edit your posts.
 
Good try high , but your fired ! 😜

“ Trust we give ourselves each and every day to perpetuate the justice or injustice on this and many other matters. “

Those are two completely different ‘ train wrecks ‘ of thought 😝 that got collided together and then posted by accident, then again maybe all my stuff is like that 🤔😝
 
Good try high , but your fired ! 😜

“ Trust we give ourselves each and every day to perpetuate the justice or injustice on this and many other matters. “

Those are two completely different ‘ train wrecks ‘ of thought 😝 that got collided together and then posted by accident, then again maybe all my stuff is like that 🤔😝
Mike, I use the microphone to do my "typing" a lot of the time. It "auto corrects" my words so badly that I can't even correct it because the wording is so bizarre.
Then I spend two to five minutes rewriting what I think I meant to say.
Maybe I need to use a mechanical typewriter to get my point across using real paper, then take a picture of my writings and post it that way. 🫣
I'm talking real paper, the non digital kind, like ballots should be made out of. 😁
 
Mike, I use the microphone to do my "typing" a lot of the time. It "auto corrects" my words so badly that I can't even correct it because the wording is so bizarre.
Then I spend two to five minutes rewriting what I think I meant to say.
Maybe I need to use a mechanical typewriter to get my point across using real paper, then take a picture of my writings and post it that way. 🫣
I'm talking real paper, the non digital kind, like ballots should be made out of. 😁
We still use real paper ballots here.
 

Latest posts

Back
Top