120 miles out of town and they want to use sisal. I did a set with sisal and 4 curved steps last year and I still don’t know where to start with pricing this.
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Oh fun...
Runner or full coverage? Please don't say waterfall...
Doing your own binding?
One day for scribing templates and cutting, another day to install? A third day just in case?
Runner or full coverage? Please don't say waterfall...
Doing your own binding?
One day for scribing templates and cutting, another day to install? A third day just in case?
Did someone trip? I wouldn't want to cover up that wood. Is any of the tread/riser/nosing going to remain exposed?
Highup says $2700. Since it’s out of town and possibly will require 2 trips, I’m goin with a cool $3K.
I wouldn't know. I sold my tools, remember? 
Sisal
I wouldn't have a clue, even on a straight set. Never installed any.
$300 each on the curved ones?
I never have either. I take that back, I did one job in an office and the guy hated it so bad he replaced it the following week. I haven't done mountain grass or sea grass either.Sisal
I wouldn't have a clue, even on a straight set. Never installed any.
$300 each on the curved ones?
driftinwoods
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First they gotta cover room n board when I got out of town, least pay for dinner I stay at places that serve breakfast for free so I'm out lunch unless I bring bread and baloney.
God help ya if you scratch the stairs then you might as well work for free.
One of my first jons I got in SF at a shop was berber on stairs. Thats when berber first came out in '85 ish. Then a brannd new curved staircase with a runner that was bordered on each side. I was nervous. No binding, just folded the edges.
God help ya if you scratch the stairs then you might as well work for free.
One of my first jons I got in SF at a shop was berber on stairs. Thats when berber first came out in '85 ish. Then a brannd new curved staircase with a runner that was bordered on each side. I was nervous. No binding, just folded the edges.
Sisal was, and kinda still is, real popular around here. Now a days mostly area rugs but I did quite a few installations. Some steps too. Most real sisals have a rubberized back. We always glued them down. There's lots of imitation sisals on the market that can go over pad.
I did the entire showroom of the shop I worked for in sea grass....Looked kinda neat.
One lady had it in her master suite, hall and step. She musta liked it because we did it twice with the same material... Had some whips and bows in it I couldn't get out... They say that's part of the beauty of it,,, I dunno about that but to each their own....
I did the entire showroom of the shop I worked for in sea grass....Looked kinda neat.
One lady had it in her master suite, hall and step. She musta liked it because we did it twice with the same material... Had some whips and bows in it I couldn't get out... They say that's part of the beauty of it,,, I dunno about that but to each their own....
We have the Highpoint Furniture market out here twice a year and sisal looks good with everything, so it's used almost exclusively. I've installed 10's of thousands of yards of the stuff. I've installed 1000+ yards for the spring market, only to do the exact same space in the fall because they ripped out and rebuilt a bunch of walls. The money they throw around is crazy.
I've done a couple houses in it too. I ran in to a contractor a while back that went back in after me sans shoes and cut all the doors. He said he had to throw his socks away they were so full of fibers. No idea why anyone would want to live on the stuff.
On pricing, I'm thinking about 2k plus all expenses on this one. It's going to be 3 solid days and there just isn't anyone else around here to ask. Being recommended by the mill has got to be worth a couple extra bucks too no?
Here is the last though much simpler, one I did.
I've done a couple houses in it too. I ran in to a contractor a while back that went back in after me sans shoes and cut all the doors. He said he had to throw his socks away they were so full of fibers. No idea why anyone would want to live on the stuff.
On pricing, I'm thinking about 2k plus all expenses on this one. It's going to be 3 solid days and there just isn't anyone else around here to ask. Being recommended by the mill has got to be worth a couple extra bucks too no?
Here is the last though much simpler, one I did.
Hi Darren, on the last one, that is some fine craftsmanship.
I would figure 1 day labor for site visit, measure, a few templates, and consult with customer. Then 1.50 days pre-fabrication work in the shop. Then 2.50 days for installation, roundup to 3 equals Appx. $ 3,520 + some gas and food expenses and then all of the hotel expenses. Have fun ! Post pictures.
I would figure 1 day labor for site visit, measure, a few templates, and consult with customer. Then 1.50 days pre-fabrication work in the shop. Then 2.50 days for installation, roundup to 3 equals Appx. $ 3,520 + some gas and food expenses and then all of the hotel expenses. Have fun ! Post pictures.
I know a guy from Oregon who will do it for $500 but you have to provide lunch.
Nice work!
Do you do your own edging? I ask because the wide fabric, although it looks beautiful, could prove difficult on curved steps.
If that’s included 2 K might be a little low. If you’re recommended by the mill, and they’re asking you to drive 120 miles, I’d guess they’re ready to pay a little extra… There’s not a whole lot of guys still around who do that kind of work.
I think that same guy, for an extra $50, could remove the hand rail….And put it back…
I think that same guy, for an extra $50, could remove the hand rail….And put it back…
Prolly throw it in for free if lunch is good enough.
No, I do not but my guy was able to curve the wide binding a bit on the last one. I showed him the same pic and he thinks it's doable. The binding would be on top of my charge and I imagine he'll want a near $1k on his end.
I haven't sent her any numbers yet, I'm assuming she knows it will be high. I'm probably going to throw $3k at her just as a ballpark estimate to see if she flinches or not. I don't want to waste a trip if that way over what they are planning on paying.
I wouldn’t think a customer like that will be bargain hunting. If they are I’m sure they will regret it.…3K is fair to get it done properly with the edging… Scribing templates, fabrication, edging, installation, molding removal and replacement… Break it down for them… It’ll seem like a bargain…
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He sold his tools, but lunch sounds good.
..... and he moved and sold his phone.
You went out with a bangHe sold his tools, but lunch sounds good.
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