I also have newly installed carpet that is crunchy.

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No doors open as it was in the 90’s and high humidity. The guy that did this is one of Crew2’s lead people. The same guy that came out to inspect the pad originally! I sure wish he had used the paint thinner on it instead! He chose not to to save us from the fumes. He told me he sometimes uses flour but this stuff is better. I sure was glad he didn’t use flour tho or we would have had bugs galore!
I've heard of flour before but I can just imagine a little bit of humidity plus flower plus any moisture coming up out of the concrete over time. That that would probably make a petri dish out of your floor.
 

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We old-timers used baby powder on a sticky floor. Took care of the sticky and smelled good.

J&J got hammered big time over asbestos in baby powder causing coochy cancer in women. Sprinkle that around in the air and you could pose the same argument as silica dust being spread around in the air. Sawdust in sufficient quantities over long enough periods of time is carcinogenic. I’ll bet flour is too.

It’s 2021, dusting a persons house up is just unacceptable these days. I used to have to deal with these morons all the time. Customers would call me and tell me the installers set the table saw up in the living room because it was raining that day. What! Yeah, the living room. How about grinding concrete in the basement with no dust containment but it’s ok because we put a fan in the window. Cutting backer board with a skill saw in the kitchen. Yep, seen that too. This stuff isn’t taught in school anymore and some of these installers came from other countries that have no regulations at all so how would they know. Hardly anybody is an employee anymore so there is no sort of training or anything that takes place before these retards are turned loose on the unsuspecting public and I can tell you from personal experience that HD cares more about you passing a background check than they do about your skills and abilities as an installer. In fact the background check is all they care about. This is just how it is now.
 

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J&J got hammered big time over asbestos in baby powder causing coochy cancer in women. Sprinkle that around in the air and you could pose the same argument as silica dust being spread around in the air. Sawdust in sufficient quantities over long enough periods of time is carcinogenic. I’ll bet flour is too.

It’s 2021, dusting a persons house up is just unacceptable these days. I used to have to deal with these morons all the time. Customers would call me and tell me the installers set the table saw up in the living room because it was raining that day. What! Yeah, the living room. How about grinding concrete in the basement with no dust containment but it’s ok because we put a fan in the window. Cutting backer board with a skill saw in the kitchen. Yep, seen that too. This stuff isn’t taught in school anymore and some of these installers came from other countries that have no regulations at all so how would they know. Hardly anybody is an employee anymore so there is no sort of training or anything that takes place before these retards are turned loose on the unsuspecting public and I can tell you from personal experience that HD cares more about you passing a background check than they do about your skills and abilities as an installer. In fact the background check is all they care about. This is just how it is now.
I applied to them once. First thing they wanted to know was my credit score. Didn't care how much experience I had.
 

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I applied to them once. First thing they wanted to know was my credit score. Didn't care how much experience I had.
Some places hire you because they heard you did good work.
Some places hire because your body is the correct temperature.
 

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I’ve done Lowe’s and HD work in 5 different states and have only had one person check references and look at my van. That was in Columbia SC. I really did like Columbia but the wife didn’t so that settled that.
 

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I’ve done Lowe’s and HD work in 5 different states and have only had one person check references and look at my van. That was in Columbia SC. I really did like Columbia but the wife didn’t so that settled that.
Never had anyone check my van. Even worked for Daris' friend Jim Walker and he never asked for references.
 

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So can you explain what exactly happened with the pad ? are you saying because they glued the pad down that was what was making the noise under your carpet ? We are still dealing with similar issue. pad was from Home depot, carpet we got somewhere else because of problems with Home depot but our carpet is making a crunchy noise. Carpet manufacturer denied claim and Blames the pad, even though carpet makes the noise without the pad and with different pads. However makes the worst noise with the Home Depot pad.
 

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My experience with pad making noise is with this type of pad. It has a waffle grid pattern of dimples. What happens is something sticky, like duct tape, gets adhered to the surface of the pad. When you step on it the duct tape sticks down in the dimples and when it releases is when it makes noise. I believe the other situation in this thread was because the installers spread about a 1’ wide swath of adhesive on the floor to glue the pad down. Same thing happens, when the pad is stepped on the dimples stick to the adhesive and when they release is when you hear the noise. To be fair HD isn’t the only place to get this kind of pad so you could go to Lowe’s or anywhere else and still wind up with a similar situation. I’ve personally had this situation with a slab rubber pad that I stapled the pad seams then taped over the seam, and staples. Same thing happened, when walked on the tape stuck to the staple heads down in the dimple and when it released it made noise. I had to pull back the carpet in the entire house to get to the pad seams to rectify the noise.

 

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The "rubber" pad we had back in the 80s was not really rubber. It was some man made substitute. It would get hard and stick to the floor like concrete. You could not even scrape it off. I had to take up the subfloor a few times to get rid of it.
 

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The slab rubber I liked, and even put in my own house back when I still liked carpet, dried out and crumbled after umpteen years and damn near had to be scooped up with a shovel.
 

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The "rubber" pad we had back in the 80s was not really rubber. It was some man made substitute. It would get hard and stick to the floor like concrete. You could not even scrape it off. I had to take up the subfloor a few times to get rid of it.
Most time when that happened it was over hardwood floors and something about the finish turned it to concrete. Tore up tousands of yards that way. I got po'ed trying to scrape it up with a machine and hit the floor real hard with a hammer, it crumbled and popped up off the floor. That was how I got it up after that.
 

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That situation was completely my fault. Shoulda just taped the pad seam but dumb me stapled it then taped it so I created that situation myself.
Sometimes the learning curve is nasty. I began stapling 6 inches away from the seams when I taped them. Beyond ago, the first time I noticed that sound, it was before I got the carpet installed and changed my procedure lickety split.
(Bet it's been a while since you heard that one) 😁
 

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Sometimes the learning curve is nasty. I began stapling 6 inches away from the seams when I taped them. Beyond ago, the first time I noticed that sound, it was before I got the carpet installed and changed my procedure lickety split.
(Bet it's been a while since you heard that one) 😁

I was trying to up my game. I think I had been on my own for a few years when this happened. I read the CRI 105 guide and had just started to tape my pad seams at that time in my career. On that particular job my helper had already stapled one seam and I taped over it. Then we proceeded to do the entire house that way for consistency. If only we had stapled a few inches away from the pad seam. Woulda been a completely different story but that’s alright, I definitely learned a lesson on that job.
 

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