Installing and finishing hardwood floor on floor heating

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  1. Mar 16, 2018 #1

    Kiriki-kun

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    Hi,

    In few months i will have a new house, and i want to install there hardwood floors. I want to do it myself, because it will be cheaper (we are a little tight with budget), and i just want to. I like doing things myself :)
    Right now, i'm reading a lot about it, and i'm doing some tests.

    I will split this in two parts, ground floor and first floor.

    First floor:
    Here, i have 3 roms that are ~10m2 each. I'm thinking about it as my "range", because i will do this first. Because of that, i bought old ash mosaic. It's ~20 years old and cost around 3$/m2, so i don't care about it that much. It's not the best choice because i will have floor heating installed, but i hope that small size of mosaic will compensate ashs parameters (although i found on some sites, that there are better than oak).

    Right now, i'm thinking about using polyurethane glue Wakol 215 PU. I'm not sure about it, because i couldn't find comprehesive comparison. Mostly comments from random people on the internet, like "i'm using 1,2,3 from 20 years and it's the best. I never used anything different", which aren't helpfull.

    For finishing, i will rent a dust-free belt or planetary grinder (which one is better? Right now i'm thinking about belt grinder), and i bought bosch PBS 75 AE for works in small areas. After that i will apply filler mixed with dust from last grinding. After that i was thinking about hard wax oil, because i found that they are equal to lacquers in therms of water and dirtproofing. Which one will be the best for high durability? I was thinking about "Bona hard wax oil". Are there better types of oils?

    Also, my ash mosaic is quite uneven, and o was thinking if i can do something about it, or just fill everything with filler?
    It's glued to paper underlay, i think that i should disassembly it, and install it piece by piece. Do you have any suggestions how i can remove papier easy and fast? I was trying to spray it with water, and rub away, but that worked really poor.

    Cement screed will be made by a professional company, so it should have enough strengh (20 MPa is enough, or should i go for 30 MPa?), should be level and i will check moisture level before work (should be below 1,8% CM).


    Ground floor:
    Here, i have new ipe lamparquet, to install in living room (25m2) and in kitchen (7m2). I thought about using glue and hardwax mentioned earlier. Also, there will be floot heating.
    On photos you can see patterns i choosed, the dutch one will be in living room (approximately 5x5 meters). Should i split it to smaller surfaces?
    Also, small gaps can be seen. They don't bother me much but i noticed that staves are now a little longer than wider. I'm not sure about moisture level in room, so they could just took more moisture. Should i try to do something about it, or simply fill gaps? Of course i will acllimate wood before installing so they can dissapear. Or get bigger. I thought about two weeks for ipe.

    Ok, i know it's quite long, but i wand to give you a full picture. A will appreciate any help. Right now, my biggest concerne is choosing glue and oil.

    Below are some photos of mosaic, and my installation tests:
    https://imgur.com/a/cOBeg

    Thanks for any help
    Lucas
     
  2. Mar 19, 2018 #2

    Ernesto

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    Lucas, nice looking product. But you do NOT want to try and sand it with a belt or planetary grinder. Get a pro to sand and finish.
     
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    Get a good one .. If they use a drum , they have to sand it on a 45.. Only way to drum that product ..
     
  4. Mar 19, 2018 #4

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    The thing is, i want to do this myself.
    1. I like doing things myself
    2. Hiring someone will be more expensive than floor itself
    3. Parquet is not popular in my region, especially on floor heating
    4. I have no recomandation, so i can easily hire someone worse than me
    5. I just want to do it myself, even if it won't be perfect
     
  5. Mar 25, 2018 #5

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    Labor is more expensive than lots of flooring. Especially if it is installed improperly and you have to throw away the first job.
     
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