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I think when I came back here you said Lowdown says Hi, that might’ve been before my time but I had read some of his/your posts.
Yup, I remember you from there. Jerry Thomas was the first member on floor Pro and he shot me an email and I became member number two. Things changed, so I changed. 😉
 
Yup, I remember you from there. Jerry Thomas was the first member on floor Pro and he shot me an email and I became member number two. Things changed, so I changed. 😉
I don't know what number I was but jim invited me. Ended up my password to get on there was afriendofjim, he gave it to me and it always worked.
 
I don't know what number I was but jim invited me. Ended up my password to get on there was afriendofjim, he gave it to me and it always worked.
The site was kind of like a book with a cover and a bunch of blank pages. Since they were just a handful of titles and no comments or replies, it was really weird. I think guys were trying to find a way to escape the FCI site because Ernesto's buddy seem to like messing with people and hacking their passwords. FCI didn't really give a crap.
I immediately joined up after Jerry showed me the link. I asked him where are we? I don't remember his reply probably "I don't know"
 
That’s how I feel here, tfp had a lot of content at the end. Thought if it were on the internet it’s on forever. I would hope thousands join and input. Kinda like telling people to get the vaccine. My mom use to say “nobody listens”
 
Off topic, but every time I hear the word calculus, I think of this song (from a spoof boyband). I met the first one who was singing. He did carpentry and hosted a show called While You Were Out. He went to Tulane Uni and he visited the state many years ago and I met him at some event.

As an aside, he once wrote a partial account of the time he got kidnapped by Russians when he was in a boyband. He went over there to audition & they held him hostage, locked him in a windowless room with no clocks along with a few other guys and forced them to perform-- had them escorted around with heavily armed guards. He never got to the part of how he escaped.

Don't mind my babbling. I'm tired and can't get my brain to relax enough to let me sleep.
 
That’s how I feel here, tfp had a lot of content at the end. Thought if it were on the internet it’s on forever. I would hope thousands join and input. Kinda like telling people to get the vaccine. My mom use to say “nobody listens”
I recall in the past seeing something labeled archived. I think something you couldn't reply to, but the data was still there.
Maybe it's still there but it costs money to keep it floating around. How would anybody know who to ask and how much it costs? Probably too much.
That is a lot of information to just disappear.
 
Jim was crafty and has his dns registry hidden (its not all that crafty) I was going to try and pursue acquiring the rights to the site, then remembered how impossible that would be this day in age and gave up before I got very far. I was scraping the site when news broke that Jimmy wasn't coming back but I did not have time to complete the process as it was a massive amount of data to scrape. Then there would have been the monumental task or reassembling it all, but I thought it would have been worth it. Unfortunate, I was robbed of the chance. Things being what they are, there is here now and most the people I enjoy are here.... and Rusty too :p This place is as good as another, its the people that make it. It isnt like any of us actually come here because we care about floors so much as we have people that will tolerate us :)
 
Jim was crafty and has his dns registry hidden (its not all that crafty) I was going to try and pursue acquiring the rights to the site, then remembered how impossible that would be this day in age and gave up before I got very far. I was scraping the site when news broke that Jimmy wasn't coming back but I did not have time to complete the process as it was a massive amount of data to scrape. Then there would have been the monumental task or reassembling it all, but I thought it would have been worth it. Unfortunate, I was robbed of the chance. Things being what they are, there is here now and most the people I enjoy are here.... and Rusty too :p This place is as good as another, its the people that make it. It isnt like any of us actually come here because we care about floors so much as we have people that will tolerate us :)

The physical act of layin floors ain’t that hard. I think the information you get from everybody here helps you build a philosophy of floor covering. Combine the philosophy with the actual layin of the floors and next thing you know you’re a master.
 
Jim was crafty and has his dns registry hidden (its not all that crafty) I was going to try and pursue acquiring the rights to the site, then remembered how impossible that would be this day in age and gave up before I got very far. I was scraping the site when news broke that Jimmy wasn't coming back but I did not have time to complete the process as it was a massive amount of data to scrape. Then there would have been the monumental task or reassembling it all, but I thought it would have been worth it. Unfortunate, I was robbed of the chance. Things being what they are, there is here now and most the people I enjoy are here.... and Rusty too :p This place is as good as another, its the people that make it. It isnt like any of us actually come here because we care about floors so much as we have people that will tolerate us :)
I can't imagine my life and my work staying in floor covering without the knowledge and the help from others on the internet. When every new product and every weird job comes your way, you can read the instructions and that get you pretty much there for average jobs. What it takes to master this trade comes from years and advice, not instructions. I mean think of all of the times when you run onto a project or a circumstance that you've never seen before.
That's when you join a floor covering site on the internet. I remember the first time I discovered a floor covering forum.
Within 15 minutes of reading comments on the site, I got into my first argument.
Someone asked a question and I was reading responses there is a pissing match between two people and it wasn't helping the discussion. We've all seen that.
Hey, I just joined the site so I feel I should jump right in and put people in their place.
I replied you guys are acting like 5 year olds. Someone sent me a PM. He said: "do you know who that is?"
I said, I don't care who it is, the acting like 5 year olds and nobody's learning anything.
I don't recall who David Hunt was arguing with..... 😁
But I've had David's phone number in my phone for 20 years now. I wouldn't have been able to do many of the jobs that I've done without his assistance.
I feel the same way about Daris, but I've never argued with him. 😁
Floor laying can be "not that hard" sometimes, but nobody likes to give me those jobs.
"I have a job for you Randy. It's 120 yd of carpet and three of the rooms are flops.
Okay..... Two of the rooms were flops. Two-piece office with angled wall and a closet and of course the carpet here is patterned. Master bedroom is two pieces and has a larger angled wall. All rooms have one doorway that needs to be turned and tacked. Too funky shaped closets with angles and neither are bigger than 7 ft in either direction and those need to be turned intact plus a trapdoor.
Yep 50 miles out of town and I was told the job was going to be a piece of cake cuz three of the rooms are going to be flops.
I probably spent over two and a half hours vacuuming the powdery dirt out of the OSB. Especially so around the edges where vacuum might pull that dust up into the light colored carpet over time. I don't know how many times I went outside and knock the dirt out of the filter of my 16 gallon shop vac.
For a brand new house this is not what I was expecting.
Yes I build for the hatch door, the vacuuming, and the turning and tacking. I'm not usually given a work order. Actually I can't remember how many years it's been since I've seen one.
Have another pattern carpet job to look at tomorrow just to see what I'm in for and talk with the customer about how the job will progress. It's not a new home and it's an older couple. On the bright side I'm told that three rooms are flops. 😁😁😁😁
 
Jim was crafty and has his dns registry hidden (its not all that crafty) I was going to try and pursue acquiring the rights to the site, then remembered how impossible that would be this day in age and gave up before I got very far. I was scraping the site when news broke that Jimmy wasn't coming back but I did not have time to complete the process as it was a massive amount of data to scrape. Then there would have been the monumental task or reassembling it all, but I thought it would have been worth it. Unfortunate, I was robbed of the chance. Things being what they are, there is here now and most the people I enjoy are here.... and Rusty too :p This place is as good as another, its the people that make it. It isnt like any of us actually come here because we care about floors so much as we have people that will tolerate us :)
Angie, our resident tech, wanted to buy TFP after Jim passed. But apparently it is gone.
I can't imagine my life and my work staying in floor covering without the knowledge and the help from others on the internet. When every new product and every weird job comes your way, you can read the instructions and that get you pretty much there for average jobs. What it takes to master this trade comes from years and advice, not instructions. I mean think of all of the times when you run onto a project or a circumstance that you've never seen before.
That's when you join a floor covering site on the internet. I remember the first time I discovered a floor covering forum.
Within 15 minutes of reading comments on the site, I got into my first argument.
Someone asked a question and I was reading responses there is a pissing match between two people and it wasn't helping the discussion. We've all seen that.
Hey, I just joined the site so I feel I should jump right in and put people in their place.
I replied you guys are acting like 5 year olds. Someone sent me a PM. He said: "do you know who that is?"
I said, I don't care who it is, the acting like 5 year olds and nobody's learning anything.
I don't recall who David Hunt was arguing with..... 😁
But I've had David's phone number in my phone for 20 years now. I wouldn't have been able to do many of the jobs that I've done without his assistance.
I feel the same way about Daris, but I've never argued with him. 😁
Floor laying can be "not that hard" sometimes, but nobody likes to give me those jobs.
"I have a job for you Randy. It's 120 yd of carpet and three of the rooms are flops.
Okay..... Two of the rooms were flops. Two-piece office with angled wall and a closet and of course the carpet here is patterned. Master bedroom is two pieces and has a larger angled wall. All rooms have one doorway that needs to be turned and tacked. Too funky shaped closets with angles and neither are bigger than 7 ft in either direction and those need to be turned intact plus a trapdoor.
Yep 50 miles out of town and I was told the job was going to be a piece of cake cuz three of the rooms are going to be flops.
I probably spent over two and a half hours vacuuming the powdery dirt out of the OSB. Especially so around the edges where vacuum might pull that dust up into the light colored carpet over time. I don't know how many times I went outside and knock the dirt out of the filter of my 16 gallon shop vac.
For a brand new house this is not what I was expecting.
Yes I build for the hatch door, the vacuuming, and the turning and tacking. I'm not usually given a work order. Actually I can't remember how many years it's been since I've seen one.
Have another pattern carpet job to look at tomorrow just to see what I'm in for and talk with the customer about how the job will progress. It's not a new home and it's an older couple. On the bright side I'm told that three rooms are flops. 😁😁😁😁
I think the real difference between us old timers and some of the young guys is, if we run into something we have never seen before, we can figure it out. Most of the young guys I have met are lost.
 
I would have to argue that fact. I've been installing on my own since I was 26 and frankly all I ever had was "figure it out on my own" no one taught me to heat weld, flash cove, any tile work... well just about everything other than pound smooth edge and install stairs, yet here I am.

Speaking of figuring it out.... this is fun.
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.....oh, p.s. it is not fun lol
 
I'm glad you're doing it because if I was doing it......
....... Somebody would be really pissed.
......because on the day the job was scheduled to start, I would have totally/accidentally forgotten about it. I'd be camping 75 miles away from here and watching a meteor shower with not a care in the world.
Oh my God!😯 I got fired! 😯
........lucky me. 😁
 

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