Discussing politics and religion

[MSLI]

They should ALL serve time for violating the law. At least 30 days. What if you thought they were going to pull you out of your car and beat you? Would you stop. If I was Jewish, I would not.

Serving time for an illegal protest is probably a sacrifice they are willing to take and that’s another sign or evidence that this cause is not selfish but selfless.

As for running over protestors, out of fear and self defense, that is a valid argument Rusty, but probably an over reaction. The protesters feel compelled to do something to bring awareness around an injustice and they understand the risks, again, a Selfless Action !

Philosophically / constitutionally speaking, we have peaceful protesters and responsible gun owners and we also have violent protesters and irresponsible gun owners. How about we improve upon both, by certifying both. Police randomly stop one from each group and check their validated certificates. This could minimize and mitigate against potential individuals who fail to meet certification requirements to be a protestor or gun owner. The NRA could be the certifier for guns and The MLK association for peaceful protesters

 

[Floorist]

Serving time for an illegal protest is probably a sacrifice they are willing to take and that’s another sign or evidence that this cause is not selfish but selfless.

As for running over protestors, out of fear and self defense, that is a valid argument Rusty, but probably an over reaction. The protesters feel compelled to do something to bring awareness around an injustice and they understand the risks, again, a Selfless Action !

Philosophically / constitutionally speaking, we have peaceful protesters and responsible gun owners and we also have violent protesters and irresponsible gun owners. How about we improve upon both, by certifying both. Police randomly stop one from each group and check their validated certificates. This could minimize and mitigate against potential individuals who fail to meet certification requirements to be a protestor or gun owner. The NRA could be the certifier for guns and The MLK association for peaceful protesters

What injustice? Israel was attacked and responded. Where they supposed to just let their people be murdered by Hamas?
By the way, read history. The only Palestinians were Jews. All of the other people came from other countries, after Israel was created. Even Yasser Arafat was Egyptian.

 

[Floorist]

 

[MSLI]

What injustice?

My justice or injustice may not be your justice or injustice and the same goes for everyone and every ethnic group.The answer to that question is less important than the understanding of each parties concerns. In other words, If the protesters took the MLK COURSE, they would understand that in order to get the opposition to consider compromise, they must address their concerns equally to the actual protest arguments, and vice a versa. When we dig into our personal belief system and project that as the one and only Gold standard for everyone, we will fail every time, even if it actually is the one and only gold standard….. What comes with free will ? …. The freedom to be strong willed and arrogant. That’s why God invented the word Understanding

 

[MSLI]

76th out of 85 Gifted Scholars

 

[Floorist]

My justice or injustice may not be your justice or injustice and the same goes for everyone and every ethnic group.The answer to that question is less important than the understanding of each parties concerns. In other words, If the protesters took the MLK COURSE, they would understand that in order to get the opposition to consider compromise, they must address their concerns equally to the actual protest arguments, and vice a versa. When we dig into our personal belief system and project that as the one and only Gold standard for everyone, we will fail every time, even if it actually is the one and only gold standard….. What comes with free will ? …. The freedom to be strong willed and arrogant. That’s why God invented the word Understanding

MLK plagiarized everything he did including the "I have a Dream" speech. He stole in from a Rev. Archibald Carey, who wrote it in about 1950. He also stole his dissertation, so he did not deserve the title "Dr." So he is a poor example.

 

[havasu]

Self proclaimed.
Another "look at me" phony.

 

[MSLI]

MLK plagiarized everything he did including the "I have a Dream" speech. He stole in from a Rev. Archibald Carey, who wrote it in about 1950. He also stole his dissertation, so he did not deserve the title "Dr." So he is a poor example.

I don’t even know if there is a MLK association. I chose him because the organization stood for peaceful protesting and assembly.

Sometimes us humans get to involved in details that we can’t see the forest from the trees, but I understand. When we grow up and internalize strong morals, take pride in being responsible people , citizens and providers for our families , it’s not easy giving understanding to ones who have not yet achieved that template. However, if we want them to improve or soften their stance on what we do not agree on, understanding them in some degree , will yield better cooperation than a heavy handed approach.

 

[Incognito]

True or False?

860,000 Ukrainian men of military age are living in the EU.

 

[Floorist]

True or False?

860,000 Ukrainian men of military age are living in the EU.

Would not be surprised. Saw an interview on CBS right after the war started. Ukranians were commenting that Putin could not be much more corrupt than Zelensky. The interview seemed to disappear after we got involved.

 

[Incognito]

Would not be surprised. Saw an interview on CBS right after the war started. Ukranians were commenting that Putin could not be much more corrupt than Zelensky. The interview seemed to disappear after we got involved.

Another interesting, related story---they now need to add 15,000 more border troops to keep their men IN the country. They really don't have an issue with illegal immigration.

I though that was kinda absurd considering the context of the Congress fighting over their aid package being linked to our own border control issues.

 

[highup]

Let’s add a different perspective to this situation. A) I’m sure they are pro Palestinian NOT Hamass .

B) They probably prefer to be playing pickle ball or bridge rather than being on a bridge, so that pretty much negates the selfishness.

C) They already accomplished their goal of stopping traffic and disrupting the peace of people who live everyday in peace, all in the HOPE THAT AWARENESS BECOMES UNIVERSAL.
When we project our belief system onto others, we cloud them out, and misunderstand their intentions.

They're not pro Palestinian, they are anti Jew.
Not just anti Jew, they're chanting from the river to the sea..... There no deception. That means kill the Jews.
Aside from the protesters, realize 80+% of Palestinians are pro Hamas. To Palestinians, there is no middle ground. There won't be until every Hamas militant and leader is 3 feet under.
(3 feet because of all the rocks)

The protesters don't understand that nobody cares about their cause, nor will they. People are angered by it, meaning even less people would be attracted to or want to join their angry and hate filled cause.
People want to go to work, go sightseeing, vacationing, shopping etc.b
Shutting down roadways, especially highways and freeways ought to become a felony with fines and at least some jail time.... with no exceptions, no excuses.

 

[highup]

My justice or injustice may not be your justice or injustice and the same goes for everyone and every ethnic group.The answer to that question is less important than the understanding of each parties concerns. In other words, If the protesters took the MLK COURSE, they would understand that in order to get the opposition to consider compromise, they must address their concerns equally to the actual protest arguments, and vice a versa. When we dig into our personal belief system and project that as the one and only Gold standard for everyone, we will fail every time, even if it actually is the one and only gold standard….. What comes with free will ? …. The freedom to be strong willed and arrogant. That’s why God invented the word Understanding

Israel had a gold standard.
Let us live in peace, stop firing rockets at us.

Palestinians and Hamas have a Gold standard.
Kill all the Jews.

Has anyone noticed that the Jewish community and supporters have not staged any kill the Palestinians rallies, demonstrations or freeway shut downs.

There is no middle ground. There will be an end to the violence. That's up to Israel. Street takeovers in the US will have absolutely zero affect on the outcome.

 

[MSLI]

They're not pro Palestinian, they are anti Jew.
Not just anti Jew, they're chanting from the river to the sea..... There no deception. That means kill the Jews.

Thanks for being brave enough to share it that way Randy because if us American humans are going to learn anything from these protests, we must choose the proper or close to proper interpretation and that takes back and forth debate to find it. So here we go, or is that hear

The chant is a battle cry for the Palestinian people who both live in Israel, West Bank , and Gaza Strip to live in Peace, not to eliminate all the Jews. That endeavor was already tried and failed big time. They have No delusions of grandeur, but what they do have is a misunderstanding about some of their listeners and some of their listeners have a misunderstanding about them……. The middle ground can only be found if we choose to Stop, Look, and Listen for it.

These students are all jacked up on Peaceful Mountain Dew And what is the go to Mantra of most humans for peace ? Peace through Power and Strength, so they chant the best strength song in their repertoire, and it is up to US to see through the sometimes negative message, and to interpret and understand their true Intentions as close to proper as possible….. When it feels like there is no middle ground, that’s the time to question the interpretation for accuracy.

 

[Csason]

The students are all jacked up on moronic ideals and Soros money . I went on Amazon looking for Yassar Arafat costumes and they’re all sold out to the teeny boppers “trying to make a difference “ when they can’t determine their own gender . This is all a giant distraction from the 33 trillion dollar debt spending the federal reserve has to continue in order to maintain status quo.
Newsflash Putin didn’t blow up Nordstream 2 and the US DoD has no business funding dozens of biolabs in Ukraine

 

[MSLI]

Moronic ideals today, sometimes become ethical values tomorrow …. Through the process of improving upon a concern that’s being voiced by a segment of society. That’s why Jesus said forgive them for they know not what they do……. Life is a series of challenges, mistakes and lessons learned. Striving for perfection is unattainable, so maybe it’s time we give people, ourselves a break and criticize less and encourage more.

 

[Floorist]

Thanks for being brave enough to share it that way Randy because if us American humans are going to learn anything from these protests, we must choose the proper or close to proper interpretation and that takes back and forth debate to find it. So here we go, or is that hear

The chant is a battle cry for the Palestinian people who both live in Israel, West Bank , and Gaza Strip to live in Peace, not to eliminate all the Jews. That endeavor was already tried and failed big time. They have No delusions of grandeur, but what they do have is a misunderstanding about some of their listeners and some of their listeners have a misunderstanding about them……. The middle ground can only be found if we choose to Stop, Look, and Listen for it.

These students are all jacked up on Peaceful Mountain Dew And what is the go to Mantra of most humans for peace ? Peace through Power and Strength, so they chant the best strength song in their repertoire, and it is up to US to see through the sometimes negative message, and to interpret and understand their true Intentions as close to proper as possible….. When it feels like there is no middle ground, that’s the time to question the interpretation for accuracy.

The "Palestinian" people actually came there from other countries after Israel was created. They only came there because they hate the Jews. Up until that time, about all that lived in that area was Jews.

 

[Floorist]

 

[havasu]

The students are all jacked up on moronic ideals and Soros money

Spot on!

 

[Floorist]