Misting softback to install a runner

Flooring Forum - DIY & Professional

Help Support Flooring Forum - DIY & Professional:

highup

Supporting Member
Supporting Member
Pro
Joined
Mar 6, 2011
Messages
16,070
Location
,
Or should I just use heat? That expensive carpet I just posted about is going to get installed n a set of stairs as a runner. I sent it off to have the edges surged. It's ready to install, but as much of a bear as it was to stretch and install using my stretcher, I'm thinking this runner install is going to be really slow going by heating the back with my hair dryer. I. using my stair stretcher too.......... but this carpet is really thick and stiff.
Just heat, or will misting it a tiny bit help?
The stair treads are Pergo so I think I'm going to install the strip by drilling and using 1 inch drywall screws. That will do a lot less damage to the treads. Risers are wood painted white.
 
Last edited:

Nick

In Remembrance
Joined
Jan 31, 2010
Messages
10,909
Location
, New Jersey
Good Luck, I just did a set with a Bullnose .
That stuff will make a priest kick in a stained glass window .
 

highup

Supporting Member
Supporting Member
Pro
Joined
Mar 6, 2011
Messages
16,070
Location
,
Why not use stair rods and do it like the old days and just drape the carpet step to step?

Daris
"The Boys" don't want stair rods.

I think I'll double strip the risers since I'll be starting at the top and using the stair stretcher. I'm using 1/4 inch pad and the Pergo bullnose is pretty short. Any drawbacks or advantage to misting softback?
 

DarisMulkin

Supporting Member
Supporting Member
Pro
Joined
Jul 11, 2011
Messages
4,282
Location
Davison, Mi, Michigan
I really don't see it will do any good. I think a hair dryer will work better. I take it you are water falling the steps, but why double strip the risers. You are only really hooking on the front row of pins anyway. Why not contour the steps and wrap the nose?

Daris
 

highup

Supporting Member
Supporting Member
Pro
Joined
Mar 6, 2011
Messages
16,070
Location
,
I really don't see it will do any good. I think a hair dryer will work better. I take it you are water falling the steps, but why double strip the risers. You are only really hooking on the front row of pins anyway. Why not contour the steps and wrap the nose?

Daris

Pergo nose is only around 1/2 inch over the riser and it's not very thick. It's so slight would look like a boo boo if it was contoured.
Heat works good but it's slow.............. ah, so am I. :rolleyes:
 

DarisMulkin

Supporting Member
Supporting Member
Pro
Joined
Jul 11, 2011
Messages
4,282
Location
Davison, Mi, Michigan
When using a hair dryer on steps I am actually letting the hair dryer heat the step ahead of the one I'm working on. So it is nice and toasty when its time to do it. I did have one dryer that ran hot and it melted the carpet right next to it.

Daris
 

highup

Supporting Member
Supporting Member
Pro
Joined
Mar 6, 2011
Messages
16,070
Location
,
When using a hair dryer on steps I am actually letting the hair dryer heat the step ahead of the one I'm working on. So it is nice and toasty when its time to do it. I did have one dryer that ran hot and it melted the carpet right next to it.

Daris
I didn't even end up using the hair dryer. Put the strip 1 1/4" up on the riser and 1" out from it............. any closer would have made this thick carpet a PITA to do. Between the stair stretcher and my weight on the stair tool, it went 10X easier than I expected it to go.
High humidity and the house was pretty warm, so I said the heck with more heat. With softback and using a dense rebond 1/4 inch pad it will be fine. Carpet is so heavy that you couldn't detect a 1/2 inch high wrinkle in it anyway. :D
I was really surprised how well it went once I got the strip and pad in place.
.............not fast, but well. Like you said Daris, one strip on the tread and one on the riser. I was careful experimenting on the ideal gap between them.
The double faced tape worked well on the Pergo tread and I stapled the riser. Worked out slick.
 

DarisMulkin

Supporting Member
Supporting Member
Pro
Joined
Jul 11, 2011
Messages
4,282
Location
Davison, Mi, Michigan
I didn't even end up using the hair dryer. Put the strip 1 1/4" up on the riser and 1" out from it............. any closer would have made this thick carpet a PITA to do. Between the stair stretcher and my weight on the stair tool, it went 10X easier than I expected it to go.
High humidity and the house was pretty warm, so I said the heck with more heat. With softback and using a dense rebond 1/4 inch pad it will be fine. Carpet is so heavy that you couldn't detect a 1/2 inch high wrinkle in it anyway. :D
I was really surprised how well it went once I got the strip and pad in place.
.............not fast, but well. Like you said Daris, one strip on the tread and one on the riser. I was careful experimenting on the ideal gap between them.
The double faced tape worked well on the Pergo tread and I stapled the riser. Worked out slick.

When I first started we worked steps from the top down. The pad was never stapled on the riser. We just let it drape and it kind of helped support the carpet, if tapped on it it didn't sound hollow. Really where is that pad going to go if anchored on the tread?

Daris
 

Floorist

Administrator
Staff member
Admin
Moderator
Pro
Joined
Feb 21, 2011
Messages
16,416
Location
The free state of Missouri
When I first started we worked steps from the top down. The pad was never stapled on the riser. We just let it drape and it kind of helped support the carpet, if tapped on it it didn't sound hollow. Really where is that pad going to go if anchored on the tread?

Daris

Yep, but when we started kicking it on from the bottom, the pad had to be stapled. And when using a kicker it was much tighter than stair-tooling from the top.
 

Floorist

Administrator
Staff member
Admin
Moderator
Pro
Joined
Feb 21, 2011
Messages
16,416
Location
The free state of Missouri
Maybe it was the installers here. I fixed a bunch that had been installed from the top. Of course, when I moved back to my hometown in '92, I worked for one store just fixing stuff from their previous installers. Repaired stuff every day for six months. Had several that couldn't be fixed. Most of the guys here were self taught. I worked with three different installers before I went completely on my own in Kansas City.
 

highup

Supporting Member
Supporting Member
Pro
Joined
Mar 6, 2011
Messages
16,070
Location
,
Are you sure of that? I've done a lot of restretches on steps that were kicked on but never one on ones that were stair tooled that I know of.

Daris
Rusty only weighed 95 lbs at the time, so no wonder he couldn't get it tight. :D
I learned to down and tooling it top down is the same force that a persons foot will stretch the carpet when the stairs are used. It seemed logical to me. The stair stretcher saves wear and tear on the wrists, and I'm glad I bought one. I work from the center and go out each direction with my body weight on the stair tool. A heavy leather glove is a must. It's definitely technique that makes the process work correctly.
 

Latest posts

Top