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[Ernesto]

And yet the killing of yet another police officer, by an illegal border jumper, was just another smokescreen and distraction to get Trump to built the wall? Damn, he is good. He has been orchestrating this smokescreen since an illegal killed my friend David, who was patrolling 5 minutes from where I was patrolling on April 29th, 2002.

https://www.odmp.org/officer/16258-deputy-sheriff-david-william-march

Dashcam video shows moment illegal immigrant suspect opens fire on ...

https://www.foxnews.com/.../dashcam-video-shows-moment-illegal-immigrant-suspect-o...
Nov 15, 2018 - Newly released dashcam video shows the moments a police officer in ... a gun during an intense shootout with an illegal immigrant suspect ... another officer about a half-hour later and once again shot at police, officials said.
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Illegal immigrant cop killer smirks at death sentence-- and victims ...

https://www.foxnews.com/.../illegal-immigrant-cop-killer-smirks-at-death-sentence-and-...
Mar 28, 2018 - Illegal immigrant Luis Bracamontes was given a death sentence Tuesday by a California jury following his conviction in the 2014 killings of two ...
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Six years of change since David March's murder - The Signal

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Apr 27, 2008 - Los Angeles County Sheriff's Deputy David March was shot and killed in the ... Deputy March, traveling alone in an LASD patrol vehicle, made a routine ... America's southern border is so porous, the flow of illegal alien entry is ...

3 days ago - “There is right now a full scale manhunt going on in California for an illegal immigrant accused of shooting and killing a police officer during a ...
3 days ago - “There is right now a full scale manhunt going on in California for an illegal immigrant accused of shooting and killing a police officer during a ...

Wonder where these criminals get guns from?

 

[Ernesto]

 

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Because you can't shut the border forever. You can let a wall stand forever. Borders are regulated entryways. That comic writer don't have a clue what he's attempting to joke about.
Here's an alternative.
Make it illegal for cops in California to arrest a person that's here illegally and then fail to report them to ICE.

Example:
If a California cop arrests a 2 time drunk driving illegal alien, he must keep the person in jail and notify ICE within one hour of the actual arrest.
(providing of course the cop doesn't get murdered by him)

No more "sanctuary cities". Go ahead an enact it, but you will immediately loose all federal funding to your city or to your state, depending on where the sanctuary city ruling comes from. You hide em, you will pay big.

 

[Ernesto]

Because you can't shut the border forever. You can let a wall stand forever. Borders are regulated entryways. That comic writer don't have a clue what he's attempting to joke about.
Here's an alternative.
Make it illegal for cops in California to arrest a person that's here illegally and then fail to report them to ICE.

Example:
If a California cop arrests a 2 time drunk driving illegal alien, he must keep the person in jail and notify ICE within one hour of the actual arrest.
(providing of course the cop doesn't get murdered by him)

No more "sanctuary cities". Go ahead an enact it, but you will immediately loose all federal funding to your city or to your state, depending on where the sanctuary city ruling comes from. You hide em, you will pay big.

Nobody wants to allow criminal illegal aliens to stay in America. No ones ever said that cept for trump. I believe Ice and border patrol has been doing a great job of it, even when Obama was in office.
https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-isnt-breaking-immigration-arrest-records

P.S. Look up the word satire.

 

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We need two things. A wall, however long it needs to be to be considered effective, and also to figure out a way to deal with illegal 'residents'
Been here 10 years or less, back ya go.
Been here 20 years or more, get a win card because it was our fault for not catching you because of our lax laws and insanely stupid sanctuary laws.
Between 10 and 20................... fill in the blank 'cause I don't know.

OK, 3 things.
And lastly. Every night at the top of the newscast, every major news organization is required by my law to list every illegal criminal arrest that happened on that day in the united States.
I'm guessing they wouldn't have much time for anything else.
Not really joking on that. People would finally know that there is a problem. Might make that light bulb in their noggin finally glow a tiny bit.

 

[highup]

Nobody wants to allow criminal illegal aliens to stay in America. No ones ever said that cept for trump. I believe Ice and border patrol has been doing a great job of it, even when Obama was in office.
https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-isnt-breaking-immigration-arrest-records

P.S. Look up the word satire.

Ha.
"the Trump administration is unlikely to reach President Obama’s deportation record.
One is bureaucratic incompetence in the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice, and other executive branch chaos that has so far prevented an orderly and organized deployment of law enforcement resources. As a partial result of those administrative problems, they are incapable of convincing states and localities to enforce federal immigration laws.
(Tell me how they are gonna convince California......... gimme a break)

Another reason is that illegal immigrants in 2018 are savvier than they were in the past, are better able to avoid law enforcement,
(good reason for a wall isn't it?)

and the few who were criminals
(few percentage wise, but that makes it sound as if it was three.......gimme another break)

were deported over the years, fewer new illegal immigrants have taken their place, and those remaining are less likely to come into contact with law enforcement."
(did someone mention sanctuary cities hiding them? ...gimme one last break)

The 6 or 7 hundred mile already existing work. This is political. You read my previous post on the Democratic views on illegal immigration. The say, turn around go home. The border wall is working. What has changed? ........Trump is president....... That's all. He wants to build what he promised us he would. I hope he holds out.
We need another system for the budget tho. Netx years budget will always be higher...... that's a given.
That said, OK next years budget in advance, that way everything keeps operating................ ...........then bring out the gloves and duke out the new pork so nobody goes without their checks.

 

[havasu]

I do to.

Tall walls make great neighbors!

 

[highup]

If this ain't politics maybe I misread something they said. http://video.foxnews.com/v/5985075946001
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Democrats seek to separate shutdown from border wall standoff, plan to introduce spending bills to reopen government
Likely-incoming Speaker Nancy Pelosi announces that House Democrats would look to reopen the government, but only if they didn't have to pay for the wall; Kevin Corke reports from the White House.

The Oscar for the biggest bluff of 2018 goes to Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi for almost having us convinced they’re opposed to immigration reform from high atop the fabricated moral high ground they’ve staked out.

In reality, they weren’t always opposed to illegal immigrants being forced to follow the law and come here through legal channels.

How do we know this? They told us.

CLICK HERE TO READ BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON KEEP TRYING TO REWRITE HISTORY. BUT WILL THE SHOW FINALLY CLOSE IN 2019?

In 2009, while speaking at Georgetown University, Sen. Schumer, D-NY, said “illegal immigration is wrong, plain and simple.” Indirectly referencing over 600 miles of border fence that had already been built, he literally claimed it was a “significant barrier to illegal immigration.” This is exactly President Trump’s position about completing the border wall, almost word for word.

Schumer is also on record, and on video, as having said, "One of the most effective things we do on the border is turn people back … they get up to the border and we find them and say, 'go home!’" Again, this is President Trump’s position, almost word for word.

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House Minority Leader and incoming Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., also had a different position on borders. In 2008 she said, “Because we do need to address the issue of immigration and the challenge we have of undocumented people in our country. We certainly do not want any more coming in.”

Even Hillary Clinton, the Democratic frontrunner for president took a hard line on illegal immigration as late as 2014 saying, “We have to send a clear message that just because your child gets across the border, that doesn’t mean your child gets to stay. We don’t want to send a message that is contrary to our laws or encourage more children to make that dangerous journey.”

Nancy and Hillary sound a lot like President Trump, again almost verbatim.

In 2013 every single Democrat in the Senate — all 54 of them — voted for $46 billion in border security, which included 700 miles in border fencing. Yet today, the Democrats are willing to shut down the government over just $5 billion dollars.

To most people $5 billion is an inconceivable amount of money. To Congress it’s lunch money.

To put it in perspective, in 2009 when Democrats controlled both Houses of Congress and the White House, they passed a $787 billion stimulus bill, a $410 billion Omnibus Appropriations bill. Then in 2015 they overwhelmingly voted for President Obama’s Iran Nuclear Deal, which gave that nation — the world’s most foremost sponsor of terrorism —$150 billion in the hope that would keep the Iranians from developing a nuclear weapon.

President Trump rightly extracted the U.S. from that deal, which Iran had no intention of honoring, but the money is gone and we can’t get it back.

To show just how principled they are in their spending, they’ve also thrown money at swine odor and manure management research to the tune of $1.8 million.

When you look at it in these terms, why would Democrats shut down the government over a measly $5 billion, halt government employee paychecks and, in the case of Pelosi, jet off to Hawaii to figure it all out later when they’ve voted for almost 10 times that amount in border security?

Because a border wall isn’t just a win for America, it’s a win for President Trump. If America gets the wall, the president will have made good on his biggest campaign promise, and it will likely mean he’s headed toward a second term in 2020.

 

[highup]

I do to.

Tall walls make great neighbors!

I like that one.

 

[Ernesto]

We already have walls. We have technology thst spies and drops bombs on people half way around the world.
One army base near me is Ft. Huachuca. They are half mile from the border. They fly drones in iraq and Afghanistan from here.
Something is wrong with this picture that we need to spend 30 billion on a fucking wall.

 

[Nick]

Over 9,000 Illegals have already breached the wall..

 

[havasu]

Just curious. Do you guys have fences? Do you lock your doors at night?

 

[Nick]

 

[highup]

I haven't locked my doors in 40 years Hav. Kinda depends on where ya live.

 

[Nick]

I don't lock them either .. Enter at your own risk !!

 

[highup]

Over 9,000 Illegals have already breached the wall..

How many if there wasn't a wall?

 

[highup]

I don't lock them either .. Enter at your own risk !!

I live on a short dead end road and the neighbors have been the same as long as I've lived here. Someone is always home and we notice strange vehicles. Couple of them have dogs. Dogs bark and creepy people don't like that.

 

[Nick]

How many if there wasn't a wall?

Does it really matter ? The wall don't work .. Sara H Said yesterday that they stopped over 7,000 from coming in ..
Of course that included people on the no fly list [etc].. No arrest were made ..

 

[Floorist]

 

[highup]

We already have walls. We have technology thst spies and drops bombs on people half way around the world.
One army base near me is Ft. Huachuca. They are half mile from the border. They fly drones in iraq and Afghanistan from here.
Something is wrong with this picture that we need to spend 30 billion on a fucking wall.

Thought it was 50.
He's asking for 5. Give him 5. If it's not effective, then drop the rest of it.