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[Floorist]

The KC chiefs win or lose based on her. I read that on the internets.

Amazing isn't it. They never mentioned it when Kelce was dating the black model. Mahomes wife is prettier than Swift and had her own business established before he got his money. If you remember, the media went nuts when Aaron Rogers was dating Danica Patrick, the NASCAR driver. They need some kind of BS to spread.

 

[Floorist]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/electric-vehicles-great-mileage-pricey-141209778.html

 

[C.J.]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/electric-vehicles-great-mileage-pricey-141209778.html

The more weight I put in my van, the faster my tires wear out. The softer the compound of tire that I run, the faster my tires wear out. The more I jackrabbit start, the faster my tires wear out. And it should be no surprise that if I didn’t have engine noise, I’m gonna hear more road noise.

I’m not sticking up for EV’s but that was a stupid article.

 

[Floorist]

The more weight I put in my van, the faster my tires wear out. The softer the compound of tire that I run, the faster my tires wear out. The more I jackrabbit start, the faster my tires wear out. And it should be no surprise that if I didn’t have engine noise, I’m gonna hear more road noise.

I’m not sticking up for EV’s but that was a stupid article.

Why stupid? Just another drawback of an EV. They are also more dangerous in wrecks because of the weight. People can buy an ICE car of the same size and get 3 times as much life from the tires and less chance of dying in a wreck.

 

[C.J.]

My wife has a Chevy Spark. It gets 40+ MPG as well as tires and brakes last forever. If she gets plowed into by an F350 it’s game over for her, or me if I’m driving it. Do we ban pickup trucks? I drive an E250 and if I get plowed into by a semi it’s game over for me. Do we ban semi’s. How about you buy the vehicle you want and you outta know the risks cus you paid attention in school.

Bigger and heavier vehicles fair better in accidents. Bigger and heavier vehicles make more road noise. Bigger and heavier vehicles chew through tires quicker. Let’s say we ban all EV’s because of this, what next. Do we start to go after the bigger ICE vehicles because they have an advantage/ disadvantage as compared to say a smart car. How about a Chrysler Cordoba vs a Ford Escort. Ford Expedition vs a Kia Rio if you want to use modern day vehicles. They’re all ICE vehicles but all the same comparisons could be applied to them.

Kinda sounds like you’re trying to propose Affirmative Action for vehicles.

 

[C.J.]

And I’ve never once heard an owner of an EV bitching about the price of gas. Maybe my next vehicle will be an EV because clearly I’ll survive an accident even if it costs me a few sets of tires.

 

[Floorist]

And I’ve never once heard an owner of an EV bitching about the price of gas. Maybe my next vehicle will be an EV because clearly I’ll survive an accident even if it costs me a few sets of tires.

Just remember, you can't drive one when it gets really cold and if you use the heater or A/C it cuts the range by as much as 41%.

 

[C.J.]

Just remember, you can't drive one when it gets really cold and if you use the heater or A/C it cuts the range by as much as 41%.

I don’t own one so that’s not something I’m concerned about. If the day ever comes that EV’s are forced upon us then I guess we’re all taking the day(s) off when it gets cold. Shit, I don’t even drive in the snow for work anymore. Not that I can’t but I’m not risking my shit just so someone else can get some base hung.

Maybe 8 years or so ago there was a good winter in Portland and the boss was baggin on me n my buddy because we told him we weren’t driving in those conditions. We caught a decent amount of shit over that until one of the other guys crashed their van. Never heard another peep about it after that.

 

[havasu]

Currently, the EV's are not paying anything for road repair and maintenance. The government is realigning fair and equitable road repair tax by charging a motor vehicle fee for every mile you drive on the road. You drive 100k miles every year, expect a $2000-$3000 road repair tax annually. This should also reduce the excess gas tax associated with gas stations.

 

[Incognito]

Amazing isn't it. They never mentioned it when Kelce was dating the black model. Mahomes wife is prettier than Swift and had her own business established before he got his money. If you remember, the media went nuts when Aaron Rogers was dating Danica Patrick, the NASCAR driver. They need some kind of BS to spread.

I thought it was pretty funny that fans were blaming her/him for a losing streak. But it's very consistant for "fans"------short for FANATICS.

 

[C.J.]

Currently, the EV's are not paying anything for road repair and maintenance. The government is realigning fair and equitable road repair tax by charging a motor vehicle fee for every mile you drive on the road. You drive 100k miles every year, expect a $2000-$3000 road repair tax annually. This should also reduce the excess gas tax associated with gas stations.

They’ve been pissing and moaning about that for years in Portland regarding bicycles and how they don’t have to pay for anything like vehicles do.

If I see any additional costs I’ll just pass them along to my customers just as I did when gas went through the roof. Or I’ll get a job that provides me with a company vehicle and a gas card. Either way it’s a non issue for me because if I can’t charge for it, I’ll find a way to bury it in my write offs.

 

[C.J.]

And if you’re putting 100k a year on your vehicle I sure as heck hope you’re making enough money that 2 or 3k is a drop in the bucket compared to tires, ball joints, wheel bearing and damn near everything else you’re paying for.

Right before Covid I was putting about 50k a year on my van. That’s a set of shocks every year. 1 to 3 sets of tires a year depending on what tires I bought. A set of brakes a year and wheel bearings every other year. Plugs and coil packs every other year. 10 oil changes a year.

Then there’s the random shit like water pumps, power steering pumps, AC compressors and whatever else that comes up here n there as one would expect with owning a vehicle that you put that many miles on.

Currently I’m putting maybe 25k on my van a year. What’s that gonna cost me, maybe $750 a year? Not that I want to pay anymore than I have to but that’s peanuts in the big picture of things.

 

[havasu]

But, how much more is that $750 over what you are paying currently? I know I just paid $950 for the tags on my new car, and I drive ~ 4000 miles a year?

 

[C.J.]

In NC I just did tags, title and plates for just over $120. It’s less than $90 a year to renew. I’m back in AZ now and I’ll prolly drop $125 for tags, title and plates, when my current NC tags expire of course. It costs me $47 to renew in AZ. Cheapest I’ve ever paid to renew outta all the states I’ve lived in. That includes emissions and DMV. Insurance is maybe $29/ month. You wanna drive new(er) vehicles, you gotta pay to play.

 

[Floorist]

In Missouri, inspection, and tags is about $50. Personal property tax for 3 vehicles and two trailers is less than $100 a year. Lifetime plates for the trailers was $52 each. If you have a historic vehicle, tags are $35 lifetime. You can tag anything over 25 years old as historic. There are limits on miles, but no one checks them and they never need inspected. Trailers are never inspected either. Liability insurance for 3 vehicles is $76 a month.

 

[highup]

SO...........no Bud Light and no Oreos. Got it.

Oreos..... Probably been 10+ years
The last Bud products? I could easily figure the date of my last one.
..........you could too.

 

[highup]

In NC I just did tags, title and plates for just over $120. It’s less than $90 a year to renew. I’m back in AZ now and I’ll prolly drop $125 for tags, title and plates, when my current NC tags expire of course. It costs me $47 to renew in AZ. Cheapest I’ve ever paid to renew outta all the states I’ve lived in. That includes emissions and DMV. Insurance is maybe $29/ month. You wanna drive new(er) vehicles, you gotta pay to play.

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I love your odometer. Impressive that it's still functioning.

 

[highup]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/electric-vehicles-great-mileage-pricey-141209778.html

The car does 0 to 60 in two seconds flat.
His tires aren't wearing well for a reason.

 

[highup]

But, how much more is that $750 over what you are paying currently? I know I just paid $950 for the tags on my new car, and I drive ~ 4000 miles a year?

You're paying for hotels, food, phones, schooling and medical care for "out of towner's" CJ isn't.
.....how's that train to nowhere progressing?

 

[havasu]

You forgot free sex changes for the illegal border jumpers.