The retailer called Stanton about a woven product called Royal Dutch. Synthetic woven product. He told them a customer has 3/4" hardwood being installed in the home, but has a living room that will be hardwood, but the hardwood will only be on the room's perimeter. Carpet will be stretch in the center of the room. He told the person at Stanton that the sample board says the product is 13' 2" width............ he asks the tech person , "exactly how wide is the carpet?" The customer plans to allow the middle section of that living room to be 13 feet wide with one foot of hardwood on the perimeter of the room." Stanton tech says the carpet's width is 13 feet 2 inches. The retailer asks a second time: "So if he makes the opening area in the center of the room 13 feet wide, there will be 2 inches to trim off the edges, right?" Stanton tech says yes. So the customer had the wood guy complete the hardwood in that room's perimeter and it came out at 13 feet 3/8" Perfect, right? I'm still gonna have 1 5/8" to trim and tuck. Well the carpet arrived this morning and I unrolled it a little and it didn't look much wider than the wood. I trimmed off the outer edge rows of neon blue (carpet is burgundy) Damn....... It's 13' 3/8 of an inch wide, exactly the same as the wood to wood width. Anyone that has ever installed wovens knows this is a "Houston, we have a problem" moment. I had a 1/4" wide, 1/2" deep gully which I planned to tuck at least 3/8" of carpet into. ..on each side. That means I'm almost 3/4 of an inch shy of what I needed. :shooting: I called the shop to tell em we had a "issue" I then called Stanton to tell em we had a "issue" I called the shop owner back to tell em the bad news from Stanton.......... He doubted it would stretch more than 8th of an inch, same thing that I initially told him. This is over felt pad by the way. Ending my long rant here means that as of tonight, my new name is Helen Keller. You can thank 3 mill polyethylene plastic for that.