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  1. Jul 18, 2019 #2241

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    GOA is better than NRA. I was a member of the NRA for a year. Got hundreds of e-mails and dozens of letters wanting money.
     
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    I know. Our CIA overthrew the democratically elected governments in Honduras and Guatemala. The dictator we set up in Guatemala executed 100,000 Mayans, the one in Honduras 80,000. We also kept a dictator in El Salvador in power who killed thousands. And then we wonder why these people leave home.
     
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    The father of one of my grandkids was a Mayan from Guatemala who suddenly disappeared. Some of his friends say he was deported home and executed.
     
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    Right, we give millions to dictators we install to stop drugs and quash so called socialism, but they pocket the money and the drug cartels and gangs still run rampant.
    I'm not convinced there are high level people in our government that are corrupt as they are.
    Some big busts get showcased in the media but that's just for show. Tons more get let through.
     
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    But no cares or concerns about feeding, medicating housing and caring for the thousands who cross the border weekly? Sorry, but if you love 'em all, then bring them over to your houses and take care of them. Not with MY tax money!
     
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    I don't want them here either, but it is our government's fault. We destroyed their lives at home.
     
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    Thats ridiculous, they just want a job like your wifes family did Hav. As all immigrants have from all over the globe since America was founded. I bet there's more whiter free loaders here than any other. I run into so many free white loaders that claim disability it's insane.
    The refugee act was started in 1962. If you don't like our laws maybe you should move. It's what America was based on. I think Russia would be a great place for Trumper's to immigrate to. Barely a person of color over there.

    “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

    Refugee Act of 1980
    An Act to amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to revise the procedures for the admission of refugees, to amend the Migration and Refugee Assistance Act of 1962 to establish a more uniform basis for the provision of assistance to refugees, and for other purposes.
     
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    I have a friend from Guatemala who did it legally. He has a green card. He wants to become a citizen but can't afford it. It can get expensive.
     
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    Before the "send me your huddled masses" crap, there needs to be some reality on how many per year. We cannot take as many as want to come across.
    If we have a number, and I believe we do, then there ought to be a more efficient way of letting people in so they don't have to wait for 5 years once they apply.
    Now that said, if there are 50 times more people applying then that needs to be dealt with. I don't mean let em all in. If we have a number, then we have a number.
    Maybe we need a bunch of big neon signs.......... HUGE neon signs. sign like motels have, Vacancy/no vacancy
    Those trying to cross the border illegally ............ sorry, but It's illegal!
     
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    I believe it was set at 50,000 per year. The notion that there's no room is idiotic. Lots of menial jobs out there not getting filled that they can do.
     
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    "If you don't like our laws, move"????
    Our laws STILL say it is ILLEGAL. If they want to jump the border, claim allegiance to our great country and burn THEIR god damn flag!

    BTW, my family came over on the Mayflower, so unless you are an Indian, you have no room to talk.
     
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    Typical lib bullshit. I want a Massarati. Well, then I have to work for it. Wish in one hand and shit in another, and see which fills up first. Another typical libtard myth. Yeah, all whites are lazy. All whites are on disability. The difference is we paid our own money into the system. Whitey don't get nothing for free and the funny thing, whiteys are now a minority in Califmexico, so when do we become the protected class and get free shit?
     
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    Ilhan Omar entered this country illegally (not her fault she was 12 years old at the time) in 1995. Her real name is Ilhan Nur Said Elmi. The Elmis (her real family - a father and 5 children) who lived in a Kenyan refuge camp, split up in 1995. Her 3 siblings (Leila Nur Said Elmi, Mohamed Nur Said Elmi, and Ahmed Nur Said Elmi) were given asylum in the UK and eventually got UK citizenship. The Omars, (an unrelated family that was being given asylum in the US) allowed Ilhan's father, her sister Sahra and Ilhan to use false names and apply for asylum as part of their family.

    You can read the rest of the story here where all of the proof is laid out for you in the sequence of it happening when she was an adult here:

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archiv...rious-case.php

    If she's smart, she sure doesn't show it as she left a big legal paper trail and social media postings (which she subsequently deleted) that make the case against her.

    The bottom line is she perjured herself 8 times (documentation exists - see link above) and Minnesota law allows up to 5 years in prison for each time she did it. But she could also be in trouble for federal tax fraud, student loan fraud, immigration fraud and marriage fraud.

    I think the person who may not finish their term is her...that is, if the law is applied fairly
     
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    He says it's a national emergency and it's Obama's fault. LOL
    I didn't say all whites. But whitey is higher than hispanics.
    https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/disabili.../infographic-disabilities-ethnicity-race.html

    Also you have to be working as far as I know.
     
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    Never said anything that stated I was for illegal immigrants.
    I am for legal asylum. You should take reading comprehension classes.
    And your calling me an ass Mr. Admin?
     
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    The didn't used to bring so many kids. Now they know that it gets media coverage, the rest is history. Claim asylum.
    Can anyone imagine how long it takes to investigate a single claim of asylum and make a determination? Be easier to just take their word for it. Like we have 100,000 investigators on hand to check out their claims. No wonder the waiting list is so long. .......everyone is claiming asylum instead of immigration.
     
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    According to Wikapedia we're doing a superb job,
    "In absolute numbers, the United States has a larger immigrant population than any other country, with 47 million immigrants as of 2015. This represents 19.1% of the 244 million international migrants worldwide, and 14.4% of the U.S. population."

    So what's the problem? ......oh right, Trump's a racist . ....a racist who brags about creating the highest levels of black, Asian and Latino employment in history.
    He ran on improving black employment.......... that mean, nasty, freekin' rasist Nazi, white supremisist, skinhead lover! :D
     
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    ..........and bigot! bigot, bigot, bigot! :D
    All the left has in their playt book is a mantra calling him a racist every chance they get. They don't realize it doesn't stick when the truth is obvious.
     
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    Trump says Obama is responsible but Obama's arrest numbers were over 470,000. Right now it's just over 200,000.
    So who is bullshitting who? Look it up.
     

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