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Who allows a vote on term limits? Does the house have to bring this to a vote?
I'd be happy with 4 terms..... First term is a learning period (I'll scratch you're back.... you scratch mine.)
One term to get up to speed.
Second and third terms actually accomplishing something.
That would end the 50 year buddy system.
I do t think one or two year terms aren't long enough.
If they suck, the can still be voted out.
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Csason, I’m not trying to be a Solomonic ass
( nice word ! I had to look it up 
) but If some of the protesters were able to be fooled/ lured by the opposition plants, wouldn’t they also be susceptible to manipulation by their own people too ? ….. I may be reaching on this a bit, but then again maybe 
not. I guess the point is that we all have a responsibility to think critically during complex times, and to be careful about listening to others who want us to do something we may not be sure about, whether it be coming from our friends or our opponents.Freedom and Liberty IMHO only have one side. Maybe two different ways of expressing it…..the very same one that is in the constitution. It feels like we are miles apart, due to the expression differences, but we are all actually fighting for the same thing.
As for the corrupt and FU expression, I have no problem with that, because it’s our right and if it really came down to it, I’d shed my blood helping to maintain it, even though I believe there’s a more improved way to express difference with each other.
In closing / adding some levity
:The anger management teacher was constantly trying to get us to understand that every time we use a “ YOU STATEMENT “ we are giving our power away to the opposition. SO ! Maybe
when we are upset with the opposition for some reason, maybe we could say F _ _ kMe !
and empower ourselves to understand why they may be interpreting Freedom and Liberty that way. 
OSHA wants to force fire depts. not to use trucks over 15 years old. That will cripple volunteer departments who can't afford $500,000 for a new truck. We have 5 volunteer depts. in my county.
Are you certain there isn't an exemption for volunteer departments?
There's an old sea story about a ship's Captain who inspected his sailors, and afterward told the first mate that his men smelled bad. The Captain suggested perhaps it would help if the sailors would change underwear occasionally.
The first mate responded, "Aye, aye sir, I'll see to it immediately!"
The first mate went straight to the sailors berth deck and announced, "The Captain thinks you guys smell bad and wants you to change your underwear."
He continued, "Pittman, you change with Jones, McCarthy, you change with Witkowski, and Brown, you change with Schultz."
THE MORAL OF THE STORY: Someone may come along and promise "Change", but don't count on things smelling any better.
The first mate responded, "Aye, aye sir, I'll see to it immediately!"
The first mate went straight to the sailors berth deck and announced, "The Captain thinks you guys smell bad and wants you to change your underwear."
He continued, "Pittman, you change with Jones, McCarthy, you change with Witkowski, and Brown, you change with Schultz."
THE MORAL OF THE STORY: Someone may come along and promise "Change", but don't count on things smelling any better.
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Probably a good argument could be made that the old trucks are better quality . If you know where I can find one of those old Jeep military fire trucks I’ll drive to go get it
That’s half the reason I keep driving my van. A new one will just make me mad with all the computer crap that will eventually glitch on it.
Not working anymore, but I still drive my '94 Ford van with 240,000.
Nice ! Van owing and driving stays in your blood for life….. Rusty are you using a step stool ?
No, but it can be hard to crawl up in it sometimes.
I’ve got a 2012 350 series 16 foot box truck filled with flooring tools .
My run around town ride is a 1980 CJ 5 four cylinder the most complicated part is probably the carburetor lol . If it breaks down I can still get it going
My run around town ride is a 1980 CJ 5 four cylinder the most complicated part is probably the carburetor lol . If it breaks down I can still get it going
Push it down a hill and pop the clutch ?
All day long it’s basically a one wire to the AC DELCO distributor if it’s hot and you got spark at starter you should be in business they put a few hundred thousand of these blocks into service with those million mile post office trucks
Plus it will go wherever a Polaris goes and way cheaper I paid 3500 for it with a warn winch
Buy electric fire trucks.
......... they'll quit their whining and you'll never hear from them again
Don't know if you saw the story on CBS. Our government had been hiding a video for 20 years that showed the Saudi government was involved in the Twin Towers attack.
I remember the terrorists were Saudis but don't recall their governments involvement.
Directly and indirectly, us human beings, as a collective are all involved.
Here is the full story...
Well isn't that interesting..
"The release of a chilling pre-9/11 video “rewrites everything Americans” have been told about the terror attacks that murdered nearly 3,000 in one day and is still claiming others stricken with cancer from working on the toxic Twin Towers pile.
The video, just posted by “60 Minutes,” is part of a lawsuit 9/11 families are waging against Saudi Arabia for allegedly aiding some of the al Qaeda hijackers, court documents state. A hearing in the case is set for July 11 in federal court in Manhattan.
The video is a key piece of evidence made public this week that could help finally expose the level of involvement Saudi Arabia may of had in the terror attacks, plaintiffs argue.
“The existence of this video rewrites everything Americans have been told about 9/11,” said Brett Eagleson, who was 15 years old when his dad, Bruce, died while working at the World Trade Center in Manhattan on 9/11.
“Every single member of the U.S. Congress should be standing in solidarity with the 9/11 community demanding accountability from Saudi Arabia,” the Connecticut man told the Herald Thursday night. “It was members of our community who gave their lives on 9/11 to save the United States Capitol building and all the members working inside of it. We now need their help.”
The video allegedly shows a Saudi suspect “casing the Capitol” in the summer of 1999, pointing out where Congress sits. Eagleson also says a companion sketchbook painstakingly shows “an aviator’s algorithm on how to hit a target on the horizon when flying a plane.”
He credits British officials for obtaining both pieces of “incredible” evidence and retired FBI agents for assisting 9/11 families who refuse to give up on seeking justice nearly 23 years after the ruthless jet attacks on New York City, the Pentagon, and in Shanksville, Pa.
The man behind the camera, according to “60 Minutes” and alleged in court documents, is Omar Al Bayoumi — then working for Saudi intelligence, according to the FBI."
You have to lick the link to watch the video:
https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...uspects-casing-the-capitol-in-washington-d-c/
Well isn't that interesting..
"The release of a chilling pre-9/11 video “rewrites everything Americans” have been told about the terror attacks that murdered nearly 3,000 in one day and is still claiming others stricken with cancer from working on the toxic Twin Towers pile.
The video, just posted by “60 Minutes,” is part of a lawsuit 9/11 families are waging against Saudi Arabia for allegedly aiding some of the al Qaeda hijackers, court documents state. A hearing in the case is set for July 11 in federal court in Manhattan.
The video is a key piece of evidence made public this week that could help finally expose the level of involvement Saudi Arabia may of had in the terror attacks, plaintiffs argue.
“The existence of this video rewrites everything Americans have been told about 9/11,” said Brett Eagleson, who was 15 years old when his dad, Bruce, died while working at the World Trade Center in Manhattan on 9/11.
“Every single member of the U.S. Congress should be standing in solidarity with the 9/11 community demanding accountability from Saudi Arabia,” the Connecticut man told the Herald Thursday night. “It was members of our community who gave their lives on 9/11 to save the United States Capitol building and all the members working inside of it. We now need their help.”
The video allegedly shows a Saudi suspect “casing the Capitol” in the summer of 1999, pointing out where Congress sits. Eagleson also says a companion sketchbook painstakingly shows “an aviator’s algorithm on how to hit a target on the horizon when flying a plane.”
He credits British officials for obtaining both pieces of “incredible” evidence and retired FBI agents for assisting 9/11 families who refuse to give up on seeking justice nearly 23 years after the ruthless jet attacks on New York City, the Pentagon, and in Shanksville, Pa.
The man behind the camera, according to “60 Minutes” and alleged in court documents, is Omar Al Bayoumi — then working for Saudi intelligence, according to the FBI."
You have to lick the link to watch the video:
https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...uspects-casing-the-capitol-in-washington-d-c/
screenshot this, pisses me off
